The Sparring Partners (spotify.com) W Kentridge and Carolyn Chirstov-Bakargiev

I chose to listen to this conversation as it is between the artist and the curator.

The curator as a provoker is critical for Kentridge. The curation process is an important relationship for C. C. Bakargiev. She feels that as a curator, she serves the artist and has to let him go by working with different curators. They feel that they have esteem and love for change and incompleteness, which connects them. His work with erasure and re-drawing connects these ideas by making a movement, then replying, and then repeating to make a movement.

Regarding audience:

K: When new work is presented there is hope that your work becomes interesting for the viewer. He sees his process of making as playful, although it is a slow process.

C: 20th century people living in the 21st century – pre internet. How Kentridge invent ‘poor’ forms of image production – low cost, inventive. Young people look for the next software – mind-body divide. Take agency – not hide the technique and share it with others. To talk about the blankness – to rely on the work to make or to continue.

Kentridge produced the opera – looked at the massacre of the Herero people in Namibia. Use of birds – a stream of conscienceless – alterations between perching and movement, rhythmic movement of language. Cut across sections

Conversation with Penny Maartin

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